Grieving Your Overeating

[00:00:00] Maggie: Oh, [00:00:10] yeah.

[00:00:13] Maggie: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the podcast. Good morning. Trying not to rage, blood boiling, very [00:00:20] mad right now. We are going to just proceed with this podcast as best as we can, because we just recorded it. We just recorded the podcast. We were 30 minutes [00:00:30] into the podcast, and I'm not trying to toot my own horn, it was a good podcast.

[00:00:33] Maggie: It was a thorough podcast, it was A great podcast. And so when you look down at your computer and you [00:00:40] see that the application quit at who knows what time and everything was completely lost, it is very hard to go and do it again. And this is a huge part of business. This is a [00:00:50] huge part of my business that nobody talks about.

[00:00:53] Maggie: what it's like when you freaking complete something and it just doesn't work. but we're here and it's gonna go [00:01:00] along good with the podcast that we just recorded and lost because here we are to record it again.

[00:01:04] Ryan: It'll be shorter this time.

[00:01:05] Maggie: And it's going to be shorter. I apologize to you guys because again, it, it [00:01:10] just, it is what it is.

[00:01:11] Maggie: It is what it is. And yes, we are both angry about it and, and life goes on and we're going to get to the point a lot quicker this time. Okay. Um, [00:01:20] so. We were discussing the emotional aspect of losing weight and the way that there are emotions that are involved in this [00:01:30] process in a way that would surprise you.

[00:01:32] Maggie: This was brought about by, you know, stuff that I have talked to with clients and one to one clients in the WhatsApp group, people that are [00:01:40] having a lot of feelings about They're overeating, and even more so feelings about the reduction in their overeating. They are talking about the fact that they [00:01:50] feel angry, and they feel upset, and they feel grief, and they just have all these feelings that luckily in Vibe Club, everybody's verbalizing because [00:02:00] that's just the place to do it, about just feeling bummed out.

[00:02:05] Ryan: Like annoyed that you can't, you can no longer overeat.

[00:02:08] Maggie: Yeah. Yeah. And it's [00:02:10] so funny because of course you can, of course you can overeat, but you've chosen not to and you're surprised that there's a big emotional component to all of this. Everyone's just surprised about it. [00:02:20] And that's why I talk about it so much because I work with women who are like, well, it's just not fair.

[00:02:25] Maggie: So and so doesn't have to worry about this stuff all day. And I'm like, what, [00:02:30] what relevance does that have to what you're doing? Well, it's not fair. I used to be able to eat two breakfast burritos, yes, and you were 40 pounds higher than you are now. So it's [00:02:40] like, it's this path that has to be walked where you are addressing head on the emotions that come up and figuring out how to get better at allowing [00:02:50] them.

[00:02:50] Maggie: and walking through this process so that you can get to a place where you have a more rational understanding of the fact that I'm not just losing out here by this reduction. But, [00:03:00] but it's also about honoring the fact that you feel in a way that you are losing something. something that's kind of like a buddy, something that's like a companion, something that always [00:03:10] had you, you know, always had your back.

[00:03:12] Maggie: And when you're doing that, you don't have to look at a lot of stuff in your life. You don't have to deal with, you know, the harsh conversation you have to have with your [00:03:20] spouse. You don't have to have that, you don't have to quit that job that's draining the life out of you because you have your pantry at night and you have the snack room during the day.

[00:03:27] Maggie: And so don't be [00:03:30] surprised that when you reduce that overeating, the job that it was doing for you. Is now they're unemployed and suddenly you're left with the whole reason you turn to food in the first [00:03:40] place

[00:03:40] Ryan: Yeah, there's an issue an initial discomfort the first little while when you stop overeating where you kind of miss it

[00:03:48] Maggie: Yes,

[00:03:49] Ryan: [00:03:50] and it and it feels uncomfortable because you don't have that thing that was You know allowing you to soothe or whatever.

[00:03:56] Maggie: Yeah And it can be compared, like you did, to [00:04:00] some type of like toxic relationship, that it's like, we're just more comfortable with the devil we know than the devil we don't, and we'd rather be with someone than be lonely, we'd rather eat [00:04:10] instead of being alone. overstimulated. We'd rather eat instead of feeling bored.

[00:04:15] Maggie: We'd rather eat instead of, you know, making the changes in our life that need to be [00:04:20] made. And so don't be surprised on this journey when you get to a point where you're like, this doesn't feel amazing. That's what we've been talking about just so much in Vibe Club recently is that like, there are [00:04:30] going to be spots where you have to embrace the way that you're feeling.

[00:04:35] Maggie: Instead of eat and you have to allow that to be there.

[00:04:37] Ryan: Well, yeah, I was I brought that up because we [00:04:40] use the word grieving but When you grieve the loss of a like a human being they're not coming back again But you can easily bring back your overeating whenever you want.

[00:04:49] Maggie: Yeah,

[00:04:49] Ryan: and so [00:04:50] that's why it's kind of like a toxic relationship that you left that you know You can go back to that That ex boyfriend if you actually wanted to, but then you just kind of reset your grieving once you [00:05:00] leave him again.

[00:05:00] Ryan: Yeah. And it's, it's uh, I don't want to say toxic relationship, but kind of, because You're constantly entertaining the idea of going back to it while you're [00:05:10] grieving it.

[00:05:10] Maggie: It can, it kind of can be toxic in a sense just because the action that you're taking is not actually helping you. And it's leading to, you know, what we talk about all the time, which [00:05:20] is just like an overconsumption and an overriding of your body signals.

[00:05:24] Maggie: And you're overfueling yourself. It's like we're using this mechanism that was created to like give you [00:05:30] energy to sustain your day as like a total emotional thing and a total emotional crutch and a way to just avoid what we're feeling in exchange for a little bit of [00:05:40] soothing, a little bit of distraction, a little bit of a break, but like a bunch of extra weight and discomfort in our body.

[00:05:45] Maggie: And the trade off is not worth it [00:05:50] when you look at it in that way. But what I find is that Many people are really focused on the loss of it. They're focused on the unfairness. They're focused on, [00:06:00] honestly, they're focused on a lot of what other people are doing and all up in other people's business and how so and so doesn't have to deal with this.

[00:06:05] Maggie: And, and it's not fair. I have a friend, she eats anything that [00:06:10] she wants and she stays so thin. It's like, well, It could

[00:06:12] Ryan: be your partner that you live with. I'm. I'm annoyed that he gets to overeat still.

[00:06:17] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:06:17] Ryan: And especially like, women have this perception [00:06:20] of dudes that they can just eat more and not gain weight too.

[00:06:22] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:06:22] Ryan: But like, some annoyance comes from that, of like, being around people that are still overeating. Yeah.

[00:06:29] Maggie: [00:06:30] There is a, there is an emotional component at every single turn that nobody is addressing in any of these other like losing weight circles. It all comes down to like, well, [00:06:40] you need to just have more willpower instead of there are processes to like be able to allow these emotions to be there to understand them.

[00:06:48] Maggie: Even understanding them [00:06:50] allows you to have a different relationship with them. I have a client that had expressed that she, you know, was going through some really, really hard things. And that she had just been in a [00:07:00] funk and was just fighting it and fighting it and fighting it. And she said, everything you guys have been talking about lately, because we've been going, you know, we've been talking about this a lot in Vibe Club.

[00:07:07] Maggie: Um, she's like, it just resonated. And for [00:07:10] the first time in all of these days, I just decided to accept. the way things were right now. Not change anything, but just accept here's where we're at. And she's like, and for the first time in days, that was the first time I [00:07:20] felt peace because we fight against these emotions.

[00:07:23] Maggie: We get mad that they're there. We're mad that we're mad.

[00:07:27] Ryan: Yeah.

[00:07:27] Maggie: We're frustrated that we're frustrated. [00:07:30]

[00:07:30] Ryan: You're not accepting. Yeah. You're, you're, you're resisting it. Yeah. And that's why you feel annoyed. But like, unconditional acceptance in the, in the circumstance can go a [00:07:40] long way too.

[00:07:40] Maggie: Yeah. And it is, I hate to tie it back to the situation we're in right now, okay, but you can't just So we just recorded this [00:07:50] podcast, right?

[00:07:50] Maggie: Like, we could have both gotten heated enough and angry enough to be like, fuck it, we'll do it. We won't even have a podcast this week. And take an action that wasn't going to fuel [00:08:00] what we ultimately want, which is to provide a podcast to the podcast listeners tomorrow.

[00:08:04] Ryan: Now, if this computer crashes again, I will do that.

[00:08:07] Maggie: Listen, we're learning, we're growing, we're walking through it [00:08:10] with you. But, but, You have to allow those emotions to be there and not take the action that you always take, where it's like anger is, we're not dealing with anger. This is so [00:08:20] annoying. Fuck it. Mm-hmm . And then go eat or go avoid the work, or go avoid what you're doing instead of being like, yeah, we literally press record while both feeling angry [00:08:30] and very frustrated, and to be honest, very disappointed.

[00:08:32] Maggie: Yeah. I'm very disappointed. I am disappointed. Like, okay, I don't want to let you guys down and be like, this one's going to be shittier than it would have [00:08:40] been, but I do. I, I am annoyed at that and that's okay. The show goes on. I allowed that emotion to be there and decided that what I want most is worth my [00:08:50] discomfort right now.

[00:08:50] Maggie: So I'm sitting in that discomfort and thinking, you know what? The unconditional acceptance here is maybe it is worse than it would have been if that thing had recorded and life goes on. I'm not going to [00:09:00] resist what is or say it should have recorded or got mad at Ryan. I'm not going to do what I would normally do.

[00:09:05] Maggie: And for everyone listening to this podcast, what you normally do is eat. When you're [00:09:10] feeling these emotions, you get frustrated and annoyed and disappointed and you eat. And then when you stop eating, You still feel annoyed [00:09:20] and frustrated and angry and disappointed and you don't know what to do with it.

[00:09:24] Maggie: And you feel like you do need to do something with it and there has to be this extreme, like, make it go away. I've had to have [00:09:30] so many conversations with people that are just fighting how they're feeling and they want the funk to go away and they want to feel better and they're gonna go to the gym and they're gonna work it out and they're gonna try to make it go away.

[00:09:38] Maggie: Then they come back to their group and they're [00:09:40] like, I'm still in a funk. What do I do? And I'm like, you get on with your life. You take the funk with you. You don't need to eat. You don't.

[00:09:47] Maggie: And there's going to be an exchange there. [00:09:50] And the more that you're looking in the direction of the loss, the less you're looking in the direction of what you're gaining. There are two places to look. You just happen to be looking in one

[00:09:58] Ryan: certain direction. It [00:10:00] truly is a trade off. It's not like you're just losing.

[00:10:02] Ryan: You are gaining by stopping over the years. It's not

[00:10:04] Maggie: like you're just losing and now you get to feel shitty all the time. It's like you are losing what feels like a little bit [00:10:10] of a buddy. You are feeling some, some pain. uncomfortable emotions, and you're gaining more confidence. You're gaining more emotional intelligence.

[00:10:19] Maggie: You're [00:10:20] gaining more ability to be with what is. You're gaining less resistance. There's so much that you're gaining, but very few people want to go through that middle ground. They [00:10:30] don't want to go through that middle zone of like, Oh, no, I've reduced the overeating and I feel kind of crappy and I want to run back to the toxic ex boyfriend.

[00:10:37] Maggie: I want to run back to the thing that was giving me a [00:10:40] little bit of comfort and a little less loneliness and a little less frustration and, and partnership and whatever. The

[00:10:45] Ryan: gain isn't there. I mean, it isn't

[00:10:47] Maggie: there yet.

[00:10:48] Ryan: And so you're, you are in the middle space of like, I [00:10:50] lost something and what do I get?

[00:10:51] Ryan: And I've got nothing for it yet.

[00:10:52] Maggie: Another thing I see come up all the time.

[00:10:54] Ryan: But that, I feel like that's a whole nother podcast. It is

[00:10:56] Maggie: a whole nother, it absolutely is a whole nother podcast. Um, [00:11:00] what's in it for me? Well, why am I going to just invite suffering? Well, why don't you stop creating more suffering with the eating that you're doing on top of, like, life has some suffering sometimes.[00:11:10]

[00:11:10] Maggie: Things are shitty sometimes. Things don't go the way we want sometimes. You, you do not get to avoid that. That's, that's always going to be there, whether you're overeating or not. It's a facade that we give [00:11:20] ourselves that these actions that we take with distraction, with overeating, with overspending, with overscrolling, that all of these things are actually making problems [00:11:30] go away.

[00:11:30] Maggie: I was like, no, it's just distracting you from the problem and potentially most likely creating other problems. And when you're not in that rational space and you're just like looking for the [00:11:40] quick fix, like make this go away, like I can just eat and then this will go away and I won't have to think about it and then tomorrow we'll start a new day.

[00:11:45] Maggie: And it's like, It's just that Amazon Prime mentality that we're [00:11:50] all used to of like, whatever makes this stop, ASAP is the best for me.

[00:11:55] Ryan: I was telling Maggie in the first version of this episode

[00:11:58] Maggie: that [00:12:00] V1.

[00:12:00] Ryan: Um, I think, I think there's an element to this that makes the grieving or the stopping of overeating a little harder.

[00:12:09] Ryan: Because I, [00:12:10] I often talk to you about how, I don't think our brains and our bodies and our nervous systems were built for social media. And I don't think whoever, I don't think whoever created our bodies, [00:12:20] Was anticipating us fucking designing something like burritos.

[00:12:24] Maggie: Mm hmm.

[00:12:24] Ryan: Like I don't feel like it's not the

[00:12:25] Maggie: way the world was created

[00:12:26] Ryan: I don't feel like our bodies and systems were [00:12:30] were designed for The types of foods we have and the availability of food we have.

[00:12:36] Maggie: Yes,

[00:12:36] Ryan: and so it's probably harder We [00:12:40] society and ourselves have probably made it a little harder than it could have been had we, you know, not been eating these crazy like ultra processed foods. And I know what you're going to say.

[00:12:49] Maggie: Because, you know, cause I [00:12:50] already said it and, but it's,

[00:12:51] Ryan: I know it's not helpful to think that.

[00:12:53] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:12:53] Ryan: But it is a factor.

[00:12:55] Maggie: Yeah. But like, there's also tons of other factors always at play [00:13:00] all the time that like, well, it is a little bit harder A lot of things are a lot harder in life. A lot of things are a lot easier. We have the technological advances we've had over the last 100 years have [00:13:10] made so many things so much easier and have made some other things harder.

[00:13:13] Maggie: Some things are hard. Some things are easy. Some things just got easier. Some things got harder. That's why I just feel like it is the world that [00:13:20] we live in.

[00:13:20] Ryan: You can't change it.

[00:13:21] Maggie: You can't change it. And that's where the acceptance aspect comes in. There's nothing that I can do about the 17 fast food restaurants that are half a mile away, or the fact that as long [00:13:30] as I can get to my front door, I can, I can distract myself from whatever I have going on in my life, just even temporarily.

[00:13:38] Maggie: There's nothing I can do about the world we [00:13:40] live in. And the fact that the world is really different than it was a thousand years ago, yeah, it is. Um, and, and yet it's the world that we live in. And the more, [00:13:50] when I say like, it's not helpful to think that it really just goes back into what you had said previously.

[00:13:55] Maggie: Not in V1, but earlier in this podcast, or what we had talked about, you're just looking [00:14:00] in one specific direction. You could look somewhere else. And by that, I mean, you can focus on the fact that like, I don't think our systems were created for Doritos. And it's like, [00:14:10] okay, Doritos exist. Now what? What are we going to do with that information?

[00:14:15] Ryan: What's the whole point of like, uh, You're stressing over something you can't control.

[00:14:19] Maggie: Yes, we [00:14:20] do a lot of that. There's such a lack of, well, I just hate that things are this way. And so, you know what? I hate it so much, I'm gonna overeat about it. This isn't [00:14:30] fair. I shouldn't be getting thrown food ads everywhere I turn.

[00:14:33] Maggie: I'm going to overeat over it because this doesn't feel good and I want to feel better. That's what we do. And you can hear when you verbalize it, it sounds [00:14:40] so irrational. It doesn't make any sense. It's the same way people are like, I don't know, I have this health issue where like I need to stop eating so much sugar, like a legitimate health issue.

[00:14:49] Maggie: [00:14:50] And they're like, but something about needing to stop eating so much sugar is making me eat so much sugar. Like I'm just overeating all the time now, because there's no balance, there's no rationality, there's no [00:15:00] understanding that like this isn't it's not diet mentality for you to be looking after your health.

[00:15:05] Maggie: And because you have diabetes or something like that, you need to be eating less sugar, [00:15:10] but it's driving all this overeating. So like you're Doing the thing that you don't want to be doing because you're mad that you have to do it and like it's just That's why coaching can be really important [00:15:20] because that is what it sounds like in our brain.

[00:15:22] Maggie: It's not fair I should be able to eat this. I eat less. I deserve a reward. Where's my weight loss like There's [00:15:30] so much emotional thing, like processes being driven by the thinking that we have. And a lot of those thoughts are a resistance to the way the world exists. Like, this is the world that [00:15:40] you live in.

[00:15:40] Maggie: Why would we sit around being like, it shouldn't be this way? It is this way. What do you want to do about it? Because it is possible. Yeah. for you to have [00:15:50] a completely fine relationship with food despite the world you live in. It's absolutely possible. Just because a lot of people don't doesn't mean it's not possible.

[00:15:57] Maggie: Yeah. Just because a lot of people don't [00:16:00] doesn't mean that you're in this camp where it's not possible for you. But the longer you're looking in one specific direction and focusing on how everything about life is unfair, And you're a [00:16:10] victim to that. I hate to say it, but like that is the space that we get in.

[00:16:13] Maggie: You're gonna have a lot of emotional reactions to reducing your overeating. It's gonna feel really unfair. It's gonna feel like loss. And if you [00:16:20] get stuck there, and you don't walk through that discomfort, the space between you making the change and you getting what you think you deserve from that change, you're gonna go back to the toxic [00:16:30] boyfriend.

[00:16:30] Maggie: And you're gonna go back and you're gonna say, that's too hard, I'd rather just Do these micro self sooths where I'm taking action against myself, but whatever it gets me into the next day and we just go back [00:16:40] and we're just like overeating every night. Diet starts tomorrow. Overeating every night. Diet starts tomorrow.

[00:16:43] Maggie: Overeating every night because we're just unwilling to be with the reality that life hurts sometimes.

[00:16:49] Ryan: It's [00:16:50] also very common. I don't know which version we talked about this and we might have already discussed this.

[00:16:54] Maggie: It's hard. Yeah.

[00:16:55] Ryan: Uh, people get annoyed that they live with part like people who still allow [00:17:00] themselves to overeat.

[00:17:00] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:17:01] Ryan: And that, that is annoying. That is uncomfortable.

[00:17:04] Maggie: Mm hmm.

[00:17:04] Ryan: To watch people doing the thing that you are quote unquote grieving.

[00:17:07] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:17:08] Ryan: Well, and you're trying to process the [00:17:10] grief while you're just like witnessing it happening all around you and you feel like you're missing out on the party.

[00:17:13] Maggie: Yeah. And then these places are just important.

[00:17:16] Maggie: It's really important to separate the feelings from the drama. [00:17:20] You know, because I do think feelings are legit and I do think they need to be acknowledged and they need to be not like just stuffed down. And then there's all the drama we add on top of it. A [00:17:30] lot of the time when I'm coaching people and they have all these opinions about their their girlfriend and their husband and who they used to be in 2019, I'm like, what?

[00:17:37] Maggie: You're looking everywhere but in [00:17:40] the mirror. You're looking everywhere except for you and what you're doing now. gives a fuck what your husband is doing. Like I get it. It's hard to keep it separate, but [00:17:50] it has no bearing on you and your experience in your body. You're using someone else's, what your perceived, your perceived beliefs about someone else's [00:18:00] experience to shit on yourself and to be like, well, this isn't fair.

[00:18:04] Maggie: Okay, but that doesn't, what do we do with that? There's nothing, there's no way that that's helpful for you [00:18:10] waking up and deciding, I'm going to allow myself to feel frustrated instead of eat right now.

[00:18:15] Ryan: It's just another opportunity to practice that acceptance.

[00:18:18] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:18:18] Ryan: Like you can't make [00:18:20] everyone in your house stop overeating.

[00:18:21] Ryan: You only have control over yourself.

[00:18:24] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:18:24] Ryan: And if they're going to order pizza and eat, you know, two boxes of pizza, like, What are you, are you going to tell them [00:18:30] they can't do that? That's

[00:18:31] Maggie: kind of crazy. It's their life, it's their prerogative, and you can have that too. You know, you're choosing not to and there's a specific reason.

[00:18:37] Maggie: So, the theme of this, [00:18:40] um, you know, podcast, even though it wasn't the theme of V1, is like, Where are you looking? What are, and when I say that, I mean, what are you paying attention to? What are you giving a lot [00:18:50] of your mental juice to? Is it to how unfair it is? Is it to how you think you should be able to eat more?

[00:18:55] Maggie: Is it to, you know, how you don't have your good old overeating buddy [00:19:00] anymore? Is, are you focusing there? Because that's an option. But every second you spend focused there, Is a second that you're not spending focused on now what, now what do [00:19:10] I want to do? What do I want to do about me and my behaviors?

[00:19:14] Maggie: Because you always have the option to eat instead of feel, always. You don't have to feel anything, you [00:19:20] really live in a world, speaking of the world you're talking about that was created, we really live in the world where if you want to avoid everything until the day you die, we've got some really great tools for that, [00:19:30] really great tools for that.

[00:19:31] Maggie: People gamble away their life savings to distract. I mean, we have so many different ways that you can run yourself [00:19:40] into the ground versus feel however, however life is feeling. Um, it's not great. Um, but with all the advances we've had, it's not great. That's the world we live [00:19:50] in. And it's a world that you're welcome to participate in and you can do it on any scale.

[00:19:53] Maggie: You can do it with food, you can do it with shopping, you can do it with social media, you can do it with gambling, you can do it with relationships, you can, [00:20:00] you can do that and life will continue on and the days and the months and the years will pass. But I just find that it's such a good skill to have to allow life to be what life [00:20:10] is.

[00:20:10] Maggie: Be accepting of that. Don't add unnecessary drama on top of it. make changes in the places where you can make changes. You can't change [00:20:20] the, the food industry. And that doesn't mean, Oh, whatever. If you, I mean, I see they just banned red four. Okay. So, or whatever fucking red number it is. So it's not that those changes [00:20:30] can't get made.

[00:20:31] Maggie: It's not about sitting around and doing nothing, but it's about just like refusing to stay in that victim mode, accepting that this is where things are right now. [00:20:40] Deciding that like frustration isn't that bad to feel life has gone on. Are you still angry?

[00:20:45] Ryan: Am I still angry about this fucking computer crashing?

[00:20:47] Ryan: No, I'm not.

[00:20:48] Maggie: I was like, oh my god, [00:20:50] he's still angry. Life goes on. We could have, we could have soaked in that anger for another two hours. Oh, trust me, I let, I let that kind of stuff

[00:20:58] Ryan: ruin

[00:20:59] Maggie: days. I know you do. [00:21:00] Ruin

[00:21:00] Ryan: entire days.

[00:21:01] Maggie: And then I just stuff my anger. Yeah. And I don't address it. So. That's, that's life, whether it's about food or whether if it's about your work.

[00:21:09] Maggie: We [00:21:10] do things to avoid feeling the way that we're feeling, not knowing that the less you try to micromanage and control the way you're feeling, the more likely it's going to [00:21:20] pass because life goes on. It always goes on. We don't have to do as much micromanaging of our emotional state as we think we do.

[00:21:26] Maggie: You gotta just try and become a monk, right? I don't, I don't know. [00:21:30] Some type of happy medium between like being completely neurotic and giving in to every feeling that you have. I have, we sold some schwag at some point and I [00:21:40] dipped one of my cookies in it the other day. And the, um, the cup, the mug said, stop giving meaning to every single feeling.

[00:21:46] Maggie: It's like, there's just this delicate balance, unfortunately, I do believe [00:21:50] it is pretty delicate, of allowing emotions to be there, acknowledging what exists for you, not adding anything extra on top [00:22:00] unnecessarily, having an acceptance that life is the way that it is, and we do have control over a lot, and we do not have control over a lot.

[00:22:06] Maggie: Mm hmm. And that [00:22:10] throughout this journey, no matter how You want to lose weight, no matter how you want to ultimately feel at the end. One of the payoffs is going [00:22:20] to be the discomfort. One of the, one of Brook's, Brook Castillo's biggest quotes that I feel like was, was repeated a lot is, discomfort is the currency for your dreams, [00:22:30] something like that.

[00:22:30] Maggie: And all that means is like, in order to grow to any level, in order to improve on anything, if I want to be a better business owner, if I want to be a better coach, if I want to be a better mother, [00:22:40] wife, person, um, any of that, there is a price to pay. And that price is releasing the old version of myself, releasing all that drama [00:22:50] and getting uncomfortable as I live in the space between who I currently am and who I'm trying to be.

[00:22:56] Maggie: And so if you want to be someone who does not overeat over every [00:23:00] emotion There is a price to pay, and that price is discomfort, and I try to be deadass with you guys, because hiding it doesn't make any sense, and the more you're aware of that, [00:23:10] the more you have the knowledge that this is part of the process, allowing this is part of it, the more accepting we can be that I'm on the right path.

[00:23:17] Maggie: If it feels bad, that doesn't mean something's gone [00:23:20] wrong. If it feels bad, it means that I'm allowing myself to feel this, see that it's not gonna kill me, see that it's going to pass, and that I didn't have to eat to make that happen any faster. And now the next time it comes up, [00:23:30] I get to be someone who's like, yeah, I know anger.

[00:23:32] Maggie: I know. I know that bitch. Like the back of my hand. I'm not afraid of it. And I don't have to eat over it. And I know that it passes. And I know that anger is a healthy emotion for [00:23:40] people to feel. Insert whatever emotion you want to. We're just talking about anger because of what preceded the recording of this podcast.

[00:23:46] Maggie: Everything's still recording?

[00:23:47] Ryan: Yeah. And I have a work meeting that started a minute [00:23:50] ago. Oh,

[00:23:50] Maggie: amazing. We got to wrap. All right. See you guys next week. See ya.

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